Clinton math

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:02:30 GMT

Politico does a great job explaining the "Hillary Rules" by which Hillary Math operates!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9994.html

Maybe Hillary went to the same school as Mike Huckabee. Remember him? He declared "I didn't major in math. I majored in miracles."

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:30:50 GMT

Marc,

It's not your statistics I was referring to. It's some of the opinions and conclusions you draw which I find inaccurate.

First of all, McCain is no maverick. His lifetime voting record puts him squarely in the conservative Republican fold. Anti-choice, big business, pro-war, the whole enchilada. Except for a couple issues -he's willing to entertain the idea of limited campaign finance reform, and he doesn't hate immigrants as much as some of his...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (Marc Lewis Chamot) — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:16:38 GMT

I had predicted a possible Clinton destruction of the Democratic Party out of revenge back on Thursday, April 3, 2008 when New Mexico governor Bill Richardson betrayed the Clintons over Obama... I was the first to talk about it on the Net and Zimbio.com and now it's the talk of the Net.... web polls are propping up all over about this....

The Democratic Apparatus...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (Marc Lewis Chamot) — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:58:40 GMT

Actually Westside; in regards to inaccuracies you mention, these stats are straight from CNN's voting outcomes. Every thing mentioned about Obama's negatives are the truths unless someone wants to spin it out of context. Secondly I totally disagree with you, Hillary Clinton still got a shot. Maybe out of the ten remaining primaries she's got a real shot to win nine except North Carolina. If the trends go south on Obama among white voters like it did in Pennsylvania, Hillary has a...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (WishYouWereDead) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:59:09 GMT

i didn't read your "previous piece"... did it have anything to do with "why i hate blacks?"...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:33:40 GMT

Well, Marc, there were quite a few inaccuracies in your post. Rather than dwell on them and correct them line by line, I just want to ask a question... It's pretty clear that Clinton can't win at this point. I'm sure she'll stay in it till the "bitter" end, because power is what she's wanted most for all her life. But to the rest of us, it's clear that it's over. Given that, are you actually going to vote for Insane McCain, a guy who wants 100 more years...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (Marc L Chamot) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:01:43 GMT

Pennsylvanian Voters say...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:00:40 GMT
Actually, in PA it's pretty difficult to vote by AB. You need some sort of an excuse. Nor is there early voting. So the vote is pretty much in at this point... and Hillary has gained what, 10 delegates out of this?

I wouldn't put it past her to ask Joe Lieberman to be her running mate. But I think she realizes that many people will bolt if she were to do that. I won't be the only one... of course I knew Lieberman was slime even in 2000. Back then most people shrugged it...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (PHLemingo) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:15:37 GMT
Juat checking, and its 54.6::45.4, or a 9.2% lead (4.6 + 4.6).

Still, nine-point-two shouldn't have been rounded UP but roundedn down; mspecially to make the result "doulbe digits".

What I'm wondering though is ... isn't this like only half of the vote? Don't PAers vote considerably by AB?

Also, I'd like clarification. I read somewhere that 179,000 voters were 'switch voters' (and another 200k were "new"). I also...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (valupak) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:59:18 GMT

WishYouWereDead wrote:

value: HUNDREDS of millions?... methinks thou dost protest too much... my guess (for pennsylvania) would be 1-5 million paid to the "media" (you referred to commercials - i will include print ads)...

Well I wasn't referring to PA alone. BUT, for only the Demo primary in PA, and not even the real election in Nov. is upon us yet.....

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Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (WishYouWereDead) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:31 GMT

value: HUNDREDS of millions?... methinks thou dost protest too much... my guess (for pennsylvania) would be 1-5 million paid to the "media" (you referred to commercials - i will include print ads)...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (KenKnows) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:17:23 GMT

Chic Deluxe wrote:
... Why do you hate America?

That is exactly the question that the media needs to ask Hillary Clinton.

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:44:28 GMT
I'd say that's probably accurate, VP. I think it's more about themselves than any love for Clinton. When Clinton was the frontrunner, they were trashing her mercilessly.

Now, the one candidate who the media really fawn over is John McCain. Just wait till the general election, and you'll see what I mean.

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (valupak) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:10:17 GMT

If you read the mainstream media, Clinton won a decisive, double-digit victory tonight in Pennsylvania, giving her campaign a much needed boost for the nomination.
The media, mainly TV stations, rake in hundreds of million$ on political ads. The closer-tied they can claim a political race to be, the more they can get candidates to buy those TV 1-minute commercials. That's my paranoid notion about why-the-hype about Clinton's "double-digit...

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (Chic Deluxe) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:16:39 GMT
... Why do you hate America?

Re: Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (KenKnows) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:42:58 GMT
The same Editorial Board of the New York Times that endorsed Hillary many months ago is today blasting Hillary for her negative campaign:

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it...

Clinton math

feeds@yuku.com (westside progressive) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:27:52 GMT

If you read the mainstream media, Clinton won a decisive, double-digit victory tonight in Pennsylvania, giving her campaign a much needed boost for the nomination.

Full results on msnbc show a 10-point margin for Clinton:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229229
Same thing over at CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/

Only thing... IT'S NOT...