Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic http://sfdebate.yuku.com/topic/1842/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:48:46 GMT Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:03:19 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://sfdebate.yuku.com/topic/1842/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13970/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13970 feeds@yuku.com (Marcel Deste) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13970 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:01:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13969/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13969 feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13969 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:09:19 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13968/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13968 marcel:

if you start with a false analogy, you are going to come to a false conclusion... in this case, that "valencia street" is akin to one unemployed person in boom times... that is a false analogy... valencia street is a main artery which has been substantially changed with positive results (i notice that neither you or rob are challenging that)...

however, we agree on one thing:

"Im for taking certain streets and eliminating bikes... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (WishYouWereDead) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13968 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:48:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13966/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13966 The reason is because they know that it[Muni] simply can not possibly work for those employees. And, as the EIR on the Bicycle Plan tells us, Muni is going to work less well because of the Plan. We were vilified by the bike people and progressives---lot of overlap there---when we got the injunction against the city. As we pointed out at the time, if you take away street parking and traffic lanes on busy streets, you're going to screw up traffic for... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13966 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:06:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13964/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13964
Rob, do you have any idea how well the rhythm of the WishYWD post leads right into the rhythm of your rimshot line. Hillarious. i was reading Wishs post and then yours.imageAnd youir line has the extra benefit of converting WIshs post to the satire that it truly is.

Wish, it took me awhile to analyze the processes of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Marcel Deste) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13964 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:38:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13963/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13963 feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13963 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:06:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13962/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13962 a picture of the quintessential "moderate" san francisco would be rob and marcel sittin' in a tree with the soundtrack from king of the hill: "yup, uh-huh, right"...

look at valencia street, boys... notice any change from 20 years ago?... yes, you DO notice changes, don't you... oh, the lights are still timed exactly the same, so, at 3am you can go from one end to the other without stopping... and 20 years ago, with two lanes in each direction,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (WishYouWereDead) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13962 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:28:33 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13961/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13961 feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13961 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:03:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13960/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13960
They exist in some cartoon reality in which natural economic laws work by wishing or ignoring. Mostly ignoring. They think if they simply ignore economic impacts, theyll live to see the Rick Steves... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Marcel Deste) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13960 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:27:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13957/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13957 feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13957 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:39:02 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13952/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13952 http://mohammadi.ca/?itemid=373
]]> feeds@yuku.com (DG in WP) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13952 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:59:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13951/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13951 http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-mitsubishi-car-100-miles-between.html

http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/ ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13951 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:51:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/reply/13950/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html#reply-13950
There's going to be homicide, demostrations, social unrest, etc.

A whole lot worse than itty bitty bike lanes slowing things down a bit.

Change is never easy.
Changing a whole society's overdependence on the car is not going to be easy at all.

It will be brutal.
We're looking... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (DG in WP) http://sfdebate.yuku.com/sreply/13950 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:05:27 GMT <![CDATA[ Bicycle Plan is going to screw up traffic ]]> http://sfdebate.yuku.com/topic/1842/t/Bicycle-Plan-is-going-to-screw-up-traffic.html

City's bike plan may alter traffic

By: Mike Aldax

06/23/09 2:00 AM PDT

... ]]>feeds@yuku.com (Rob Anderson)http://sfdebate.yuku.com/topic/1842Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:48:46 GMT